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Is Vengeance Ever Justified?

November 13th 2006 10:54
Mahatma Gandhi says:

An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind.

I say:

An earthy interpretation of the metaphor, stressing the urgent and practical applications of exacting vengeance, I commend M. Gandhi. I can only hope that people prolonging the Israeli-Palestinian conflict get this message, or the militias in Iraq. Expending your valuable time and energy on destructive activity can only lead to bitterness and psychological defeat.

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Comment by The Voices in my Head

November 13th 2006 16:50
I have to say, I am at a point where I think protecting people's rights have equated to protecting the rights of criminals much more so than law abiding citizens. I believe that pedophiles and other sex offenders should all die.

I don't care about their childhoods, I do not care about their mental disorders and I do not care at all for their rights as human beings. As far as I am concerned, they have no rights, especially pedophiles.

Children are our only hope for a brighter future. Cheesy but true, nonetheless. Pedophiles are so commonplace that it is estimated there is at least one on every block of every town of every city of every state in the USA. The government should kill them all and create more housing for the poor, I say. No, it's not politically correct, but then, I am not a politically correct person, thank God.

There is no cure for sex offenders. There is behavior modification but only if they choose to modify it and for how long does it last when they do? Yes, I do think vengence is justified in this situation.

Just my two cents worth,
Voices~


Comment by postmoderncritic

November 14th 2006 04:47
Hey Voices,

I believe everyone can change, and don't believe in giving up on anybody because everyone makes choices every day, and if being attracted to children (or acting upon it) is one of those choices then it can be ceased. Yes, if a person has shown the capacity to do it then it's likely that it will show up again, but I do believe people change and shouldn't be denied the possibility to make amends.

Do you think Saddam Hussein deserves to die? Or Osama bin Laden? Let me know... http://www.postmoderncritic.com/should-saddam-be-sentenced-to-death-what-about-osama/

Comment by The Voices in my Head

November 14th 2006 05:30
PMC,
I don't know anything about your history...but just because someone "changes" doesn't change what they did in the past. Molestation doesn't go away for the victim. Ever. The memory will ALWAYS be there, it will always cause irreparable harm that can only be dealt with, not eradicated. Unless you have been through this, you can't possibly know what it's like to hear someone say, "Give them another chance."

Voices~

Comment by postmoderncritic

November 14th 2006 07:38
I think there are two victims in molestation cases- the molestee and the molester. I think the molestee has the right to take positive actions to protect themselves, but I don't see one of them as condemning their abusers to death. I think it only hurts the victim more to waste more time feeling angry than they can possibly manage. Ultimately I think it's important to move on, and let the other victim, the perpetrator, deal with managing their own mistake, because it's a big one.
I agree sexual abuse is a horrible crime, and a jail sentence is appropriate, but the molester has already punished themselves by committing the crime - they were obviously so disrespectful of themselves that they opted to violate another person's rights. These people suffer from terrible self esteem issues, ultimately need our pity, and I have a lot of respect for people who work with them on their issues.
Thanks for your contribution.

Comment by Deorre

November 15th 2006 06:46
I don't think vengeance really serves a purpose, at least psychologically. It does not eally change anything. Hurt and anger and other forms of suffering are still there.

Comment by postmoderncritic

November 15th 2006 06:55
Hi Deorre,

I think vengeance only makes you relive your pain over and over. It's like the Christina Aguilera song, Hurt: "And I've hurt myself/ by hurting you." There's enough pain already, it doesn't need to be re-emphasised.

Comment by suitably*wounded

November 18th 2006 22:45
Sometimes people are seduced by the romance behind vengeance. They believe it will offer them some sort of catharsis. I say that it's self-perpetuating and if there's no other purpose to it than to alleviate some of our own desires to see justice served in a manner we approve (and I think that may be key), then we should do our utmost best to keep it off the table. For it, seems to me, to stem from that level of superiority one would never hope to achieve; moral indignation. Because we all know that's 'righteousness' with a halo. And a crooked, tarnished one at that.

Comment by Ash

December 13th 2006 09:17
Paedophiles are sick and do not deserve to fall under the category of human being. I think they should all be locked away and the key dropped in acid so they can never be set free. Everyone is aware of the consequences of child abuse so I think that there is no excuse for it. I realise that we all make mistakes in our lives, but there is no way that consciously doing something that you know will destroy another persons life is excusable. I also do not think that these people have any idea of how their actions affect another person and so I do not think that they will ever suffer as much as the victim. It takes a very, very strong person to work with paedophiles to try and rehabilitate them.
Having said that I do not believe that vengeance is ever justified. Karma will take care of that one I reckon, be it in this life or the next. And you make your ordeal all the more difficult to deal with by harbouring these feelings of revenge. Rather put that energy into finding a way to come to terms with something.
Ash

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